Jollie Huguenots

I spent a couple of days trying to find any evidence for the family story that the Jollies are descended from Huguenots who fled France: "The Edict of Nantes drove my progenitors out of France, and they settled in the North of Scotland. My grandfather, somewhere about the latter part of the last century, left the north of Scotland and settled in Carlisle....." (Edward Jollie, journal)

That isn't actually correct, the Edict of Nantes stopped the persecutions - Henry of Navarre was sympathetic to the Huguenots. But in 1685 came the
*Revocation* of the Edict of Nantes, and it all started up again. Apparently French Huguenots had been moving to England ever since the 1500s, and not just over one time period, so although there was a big influx around 1700, it wasn't the only place you would have to look to find French ancestors coming in.

The stuff I found said that at one point, there were more French in Berlin than
Germans - hard to believe!!

Anyway I found a cluster of French families who had their children christened in
the Huguenot areas of London in the 1600s but no obvious connections eg the same
first names as our lot or anything. They were all spelt Jolly, too, not Jollie.
I looked up some of their names eg "Etienne Jolly" in France, but there wasn't any obvious connection there either.

I did read that most Jollys come from Languedoc.

Then I find that plenty of them went straight to Scotland from France, it being
a protestant place, and they were welcomed by the Scots in the Edinburgh area
(ie Canongate) because they had good *skills* (as in Napoleon Dynamite).

So I looked at the baptisms for Canongate area but didn't see any obviously
French Jollies or Jollys. I will have a look in the North.

Its tough when people migrate as the connections are lost and there often
isn't anything to link them with the family they left behind unless they
have distinctive middle names or occupations.

It was interesting to note that France was impoverished after the Revocation
partly because the skilled craftsmen left in large numbers, and England
and Scotland were presumably enriched as a result. I wonder if that was
one of the causes of the French Revolution?

Anyway my conclusion: we may never know if the Huguenot connection is real, unless something new comes to light.

Descendants of Francis JOLLIE Printer b 1791

Descendants of Francis JOLLIE Printer-------------------------------------Francis JOLLIE Printer b. 19 Sep 1791, Carlisle, Cumbria, England, d. 2 Nov 1826, Carlisle, Cumbria, England, bur. Nov 1826, St Cuthberts, Carlisle, Cumbria, England +Margaret ROUTLEDGE b. 1795, Brampton, Cumbria, England, c. 2 Oct 1795, Brampton, Cumbria, England, d. Sep 1872, Gateshead, Durham, England, bur. 1872, Jesmond Cemetery, Newcastle upon Tyne, Durham, England-Francis JOLLIE Frank b. 1815, Brampton, Cumbria, England, c. 17 Dec 1815, Brampton, Cumbria, England, d. Weds 30 Nov 1870, Christchurch, Canterbury, New Zealand +Jane COOPER Widow With 4 Children b. Abt 1825, England, d. 20 Dec 1872, Peel Forest, Christchurch, New Zealand-John JOLLIE b. 27 Aug 1817, Brampton, Cumbria, England, c. 5 Oct 1817, Saint Edmund The King And Martyr Lombard Street, London, England, d. 1884, Steyning, Sussex, England +Emma CHAMBERS b. 1838, Ecclesfield, Wortley, Yorkshire, England, d. 1892, Ormskirk, Lancashire-William JOLLIE b. 1820, Brampton, Cumbria, England, c. 28 May 1820, Brampton, Cumbria, England, d. 1868, Gateshead, Durham, England, bur. 1868, Jesmond Cemetery, Newcastle upon Tyne, Durham, England-Elizabeth JOLLIE Bessy b. 19 Aug 1822, Brampton, Cumbria, England, c. 13 Sep 1822, Brampton, Cumbria, England, d. 25 Dec 1879, Cleadon, Cumbria, England, bur. Dec 1879, Jesmond Cemetery, Newcastle upon Tyne, Durham, England +Peter HAGGIE b. 1821, Gateshead, Durham, England, d. Dec 1886, Ulverston, Cumbria, England, bur. Dec 1886, Jesmond Cemetery, Newcastle upon Tyne, Durham, England -Frances Jane HAGGIE Fanny b. 9 Jun 1845, Whickham, Durham, England, d. Mar 1904, Easington, Durham, England +Arthur Marshall CHAMBERS Ironmaster b. Sep 1843, Wortley, Yorkshire, England, d. Sep 1898, Scarborough, Yorkshire, England -Florence CHAMBERS b. Abt 1873, Yorkshire, England -John Arthur Peter Haggie CHAMBERS b. 1876, Ecclesfield, Wortley, Yorkshire, England, d. 1881, Ecclesfield, Wortley, Yorkshire, England -Frances Elizabeth CHAMBERS Bessie, b. Sep 1878, Ecclesfield, Wortley, Yorkshire, England, d. 20 Aug 1907, Albury, Guildford, Surrey, England +Edward JOLLIE Teddie, farmer, gardener b. 26 Oct 1871, Waireka, Patea, Taranaki, New Zealand, d. 17 Apr 1925, New Plymouth, Taranaki , New Zealand, bur. Apr 1925, Te Henui Cemetery, New Plymouth, New Zealand -Frances Margaret Elizabeth JOLLIE Beth, telephonist b. 18 Jun 1904, Hamilton, Waikato, New Zealand, d. 14 Sep 1941, New Plymouth, Taranaki , New Zealand, bur. 16 Sep 1941, Te Henui Cemetery, New Plymouth, New Zealand -Edward Arthur Kenneth Orsmond Bruce JOLLIE Bruce, Ted b. 7 Aug 1905, Hamilton, Waikato, New Zealand, d. 22 Oct 1984, Auckland, New Zealand -Helen Margaret CHAMBERS Margaret b. 1880, Sheffield, Yorkshire, England -Sinclair Wilfred Halliburton CHAMBERS Wilfred b. 1881, Yorkshire, England -Gwendolen CHAMBERS b. Abt 1883, Ecclesfield, Wortley, Yorkshire, England +Mr HICKS b. Abt 1883, Yorkshire, England -Emma F C CHAMBERS b. Abt 1883, Sheffield, Yorkshire, England -Margaret CHAMBERS b. Abt 1884, Ecclesfield, Wortley, Yorkshire, England -Audrey Dorothea CHAMBERS b. Abt 1887, Sheffield, Yorkshire, England +James Meuburn SMITH b. Abt 1882, Yorkshire, England -April Audrey Meuburn SMITH b. Abt 1907, Yorkshire, England -Elizabeth HAGGIE b. Mar 1847, Gateshead, Durham, England, d. 30 Mar 1922, Gateshead, Durham, England +Dr. William LAMBERT b. Abt 1847, Sunderland, Durham, England -One child LAMBERT b. Abt 1880, Yorkshire, England +Unknown b. Abt 1847 -Peter Sinclair HAGGIE b. 7 Apr 1850, Gateshead, Durham, England, d. 22 Jun 1907, South Shields, Durham Tyne and Wear, England +Jane Broughton TARBUCK b. Abt 1857, Wigan, Lancashire, England -Oswold Sinclair HAGGIE b. Abt 1881, Durham, England +Victoria Violet FRAZER b. Abt 1881, Durham, England -Peter Francis Sinclair HAGGIE b. Abt 1906, Durham, England -Pauline Sinclair HAGGIE b. Abt 1907, Durham, England -Mary Sinclair HAGGIE b. Abt 1908, Durham, England -Peter Norman Broughton HAGGIE b. Abt 1882, Durham, England +Ida Rosalie GUEPRATT b. Abt 1882, England -Peter HAGGIE b. Abt 1907, England -Patricia Valerie HAGGIE b. Abt 1908, England +Florence Alice Coromander TAGG b. Abt 1892, England -Francis William HAGGIE b. Jun 1852, Gateshead, Durham, England, d. 16 Mar 1896, Castle Ward, Northumberland, England +Frances TARBUCK b. Abt 1852, Wigan, Lancashire, England -Francis Reginald HAGGIE b. Abt 1885 +Unknown -Joan HAGGIE b. Abt 1910 -Margaret Louisa HAGGIE Louisa b. 10 Mar 1855, Gateshead, Durham, England +Humphrey WARD b. Abt 1855 -Mary Florence HAGGIE Florence b. 5 May 1857, Gateshead, Durham, England, d. 1938 +Dr. William GOWANS b. Abt 1857 -Francis Jollie GOWANS b. 1880, d. 1953 -John Halliburton GOWANS b. 1888, d. 1946 -Elizabeth Clara GOWANS b. 1883, d. 6 Oct 1937 -Edward Halliberton HAGGIE b. 9 Jul 1859, Whickham, Durham, England, d. 29 Jan 1904, Darlington, Durham, Yorkshire, England -John Douglas HAGGIE Douglas b. 2 Jul 1861, Gateshead, Durham, England, d. 16 Sep 1924, England -Caroline HAGGIE b. 29 Nov 1864, Gateshead, Durham, England, d. After 1880 +George William PADDEY b. Abt 1864, England -Clara Isabel HAGGIE Clare b. 2 Mar 1866, Gateshead, Durham, England, d. After 1880 +Cuthbert ADAMSON b. Abt 1866, England -Charles James HAGGIE b. 13 Jun 1867, Gateshead, Durham, England, d. 27 Nov 1867, Gateshead, Durham, England-Edward JOLLIE Senior, surveyor b. 1 Sep 1825, Brampton, Cumbria, England, c. 25 Sep 1825, Brampton, Cumbria, England, d. 8 Aug 1894, Wellington, New Zealand, bur. 1894, Patea, Taranaki, New Zealand +Caroline Armstrong ORSMOND Carrie b. 13 Jun 1836, Papeete, Tahiti, Pacific Islands, d. 1919, Seatoun, Wellington, New Zealand -Margaret Isabel JOLLIE Peggy, Maggie, Madge b. 11 May 1862, Islington, London, England, d. 1936, New Plymouth, Taranaki , New Zealand +Hallyburton JOHNSTONE Royal Soc of NZ b. Abt 1862, d. After 1915, New Zealand +Mr BIRKMEYER b. Abt 1860, d. Bef 1909, Hamilton, Waikato, New Zealand -Caroline Stanley JOLLIE Carrie b. 3 Oct 1863, Christchurch, Canterbury, New Zealand +Maj. Robert Saxton MATTHEWS Boer war b. Abt 1863 -Lt. Francis JOLLIE Frank b. 30 Mar 1865, Christchurch, Canterbury, New Zealand, d. After 1890, New Zealand +Florence Tovey HOLDEN b. Abt 1864, d. After 1890, New Zealand -Francis Ormonde Holden JOLLIE Orme b. 12 Feb 1890, New Zealand, d. 25 Apr 1915, Europe +Elsa ARMSTRONG b. Abt 1864 -Dovis Oenone JOLLIE b. 26 Sep 1901, New Zealand, d. London, England -Elizabeth JOLLIE Bessie b. 25 Jun 1866, Waireka, Patea, Taranaki, New Zealand, d. After 1928, Scotland +James ANGUS b. Abt 1866, Scotland, d. 1903, Scotland -Caroline Elizabeth ANGUS Betty b. Abt 1896, Scotland -Robin ANGUS b. Abt 1894, Scotland, d. 1916 -Jean ANGUS b. 11 Feb 1899, Ochiltree, Ayrshire, Scotland +Sidney MONIES b. Abt 1895, India -Robin MONIES b. Abt 1922 -Sylvia MONIES b. Abt 1925, India -Elizabeth MONIES b. Abt 1926 +Unknown b. Abt 1899 -Sheila ANGUS b. 6 May 1901, d. 6 Mar 1989 -Mable James ANGUS Bo b. 17 Dec 1903 -Mary JOLLIE May b. 5 Mar 1868, Waireka, Patea, Taranaki, New Zealand +Robert STOREY b. Abt 1868 -Francis Edward STOREY Teddy b. Abt 1897, New Zealand -Ralph STOREY b. Abt 1899 -Robert Basil STOREY b. Abt 1900, d. Abt 1980 -Arthur Patrick STOREY b. Abt 1902 -Dorothea Vera STOREY Vera b. 1904, New Zealand +Mr NORTH b. at 1904 -Laila Mary STOREY b. 18 Jul 1911, New Zealand -Florence JOLLIE b. 6 Oct 1869, Waireka, Patea, Taranaki, New Zealand, d. 1873, Waireka, Patea, Taranaki, New Zealand -Edward JOLLIE Teddie, farmer, gardener b. 26 Oct 1871, Waireka, Patea, Taranaki, New Zealand, d. 17 Apr 1925, New Plymouth, Taranaki , New Zealand, bur. Apr 1925, Te Henui Cemetery, New Plymouth, New Zealand +Frances Elizabeth CHAMBERS Bessie, b. Sep 1878, Ecclesfield, Wortley, Yorkshire, England, d. 20 Aug 1907, Albury, Guildford, Surrey, England -Frances Margaret Elizabeth JOLLIE Beth, telephonist b. 18 Jun 1904, Hamilton, Waikato, New Zealand, d. 14 Sep 1941, New Plymouth, Taranaki , New Zealand, bur. 16 Sep 1941, Te Henui Cemetery, New Plymouth, New Zealand +Edgar Roy BREWSTER Roy, beekeeper b. 9 Nov 1905, Eltham, Taranaki, New Zealand, d. 26 Mar 1978, New Plymouth, Taranaki , New Zealand -Margaret Elizabeth June (Betty) BREWSTER Betty b. 16 Jun 1927, New Plymouth, Taranaki , New Zealand, d. 29 May 1989, New Plymouth, Taranaki , New Zealand, bur. Jun 1989, New Plymouth, Taranaki , New Zealand -David Rex Jollie BREWSTER Rex, draughtsman, engineer b. 16 May 1929, New Plymouth, Taranaki , New Zealand -Barry Edward BREWSTER b. 30 Apr 1931, New Plymouth, Taranaki , New Zealand -Anthony Grant BREWSTER Grant b. 14 Feb 1933, New Plymouth, Taranaki , New Zealand -Ann Josephine BREWSTER Aunty Ann b. 16 Dec 1936, New Plymouth, Taranaki , New Zealand -Kathleen Daphne BREWSTER Kay b. 14 Oct 1939, New Plymouth, Taranaki , New Zealand -Edward Arthur Kenneth Orsmond Bruce JOLLIE Bruce, Ted b. 7 Aug 1905, Hamilton, Waikato, New Zealand, d. 22 Oct 1984, Auckland, New Zealand +Regina Aunt Jean b. Abt 1905, Italy +Sarah Elizabeth STANSFIELD Granny Clark, Exc Brethren b. 1874, Rochdale, Lancashire, England, c. 15 Sep 1876, St Chads, Rochdale, Lancashire, England, d. Abt 1940, New Plymouth, Taranaki , New Zealand, bur. Abt 1940, Te Henui Cemetery, New Plymouth, New Zealand -Lina Dorothea Stansfield JOLLIE Exclusive Brethren b. Abt 1911, New Zealand, d. 9 Nov 1985, Auckland, New Zealand +Frankleigh Ernest Allen b. Abt 1911 -Mrs POOLE? b. After 1943 -Francis John Edward JOLLIE Frank b. 3 Jul 1914, New Zealand, d. 26 Dec 1975, Box Hill, Victoria, Australia +Annie Verna SUCKLING b. Abt 1914 -Leonard Francis Edward JOLLIE Tim b. 21 Feb 1939, New Zealand -Jennifer Rosemary Elizabeth JOLLIE b. Abt 1941 -Christine Heather Verna JOLLIE b. Abt 1943 +Iris Mary GEORGE b. Abt 1930 -Russell JOLLIE b. 12 May 1953, Auckland, New Zealand -Elizabeth Sheryl JOLLIE Sheryl b. 24 Sep 1957, Auckland, New Zealand +Arikia RINGI b. Abt 1914 -Mary Edith JOLLIE b. 1964, Australia -Sarah Stansfield JOLLIE b. 1967, Australia -Edward Ormond Francis JOLLIE b. 1970, Australia -Sarah Godwin JOLLIE Sally b. 22 Oct 1875, Waireka, Patea, Taranaki, New Zealand +William Edward Augustus C HERVEY b. Abt 1875 +Arthur Penrose SEYMOUR b. Abt 1873 -John Penrose SEYMOUR Jack b. 19 Oct 1906, d. 1991 -Dorothy SEYMOUR Poppy b. Abt 1908 -Diana Coleridge SEYMOUR b. 9 Oct 1912, New Zealand, d. 29 Oct 1987, New Zealand +Walter James Maling GREENSILL b. 1906, New Zealand, d. 1988, New Zealand -Ormond Arthur GREENSILL b. 11 Aug 1932, New Zealand -Cynthia Coleridge GREENSILL b. Abt 1934, New Zealand -Rodney Seymour GREENSILL b. 5 Sep 1936, New Zealand -Christobel Frances JOLLIE b. 22 Oct 1875, Patea, Taranaki, New Zealand +Henry VALENTINE b. Abt 1875-------------------------------------