Tuesday, August 26, 2008

1820s Pacific Missionaries

I have a cousin in the North of New Zealand that I have a funny thing in common with - we are both descendants of the missionaries that circulated between
Tahiti, Northland, and Syndey, but not on the side we are related on, so neither
of us had any idea of it until running across references on the net. Hers was Mr Puckey, and mine was JM Orsmond. Those people formed quite a limited circle in the 1820s and tended to have large families and intermarry with each other as I think I
have said, so to study one is to come across them all, appearing in different settings.

Family history is strange.

Wednesday, August 20, 2008

Isabella Nelson - JM Orsmond

Have made contact with a fellow descendant of Isabella Nelson in Australia -
this is the first 4th cousin I have met up with, for some reason this is more
rare. Its obvious now I think of it, but until she said, I hadn't twigged that
our relatives in Tahiti must speak French - so silly when I used to study it,
and new perfectly well that is what they speak there. Just didn't make the
connection.
Now have a large collection of names and dates for Tahiti that I didn't have
before, I always wondered what happened after Caroline Orsmond left there in
1848, as they were such a large family.

Saturday, August 16, 2008

Harriet Nelson, descendants, Northland NZ

Details of James Shepherd can be found by an internet search, he was sent to
Northland NZ by Samuel Marsden in 1820 and translated the Bible into Maori
in the 1820s.

Descendants of Harriett NELSON Aunt, cared for Carrie Orsmond
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1-Harriett NELSON Aunt, cared for Carrie Orsmond b. 30 Dec 1800, Sydney, New
South Wales, Australia, d. 1877, Northland, New Zealand
+Charles HERSFERTH b. Abt 1800, Sydney, New South Wales, Australia, d. 1819,
Sydney, New South Wales, Australia
|--2-Charles G HERSFERTH b. Abt 1819, New South Wales, Australia, d. 1820, New
| South Wales, Australia
+James SHEPHERD Gardener, NZ Missionary translator b. 1796, Sydney, New South
Wales, Australia, d. 1882, New Zealand
|--2-Isaac SHEPHERD b. 20 Jul 1823, Kaeo, Northland , New Zealand
|--2-Harriet SHEPHERD Registered NSW b. 24 May 1825, Kaeo, Northland , New
| Zealand, d. 1827, Northland, New Zealand
|--2-Henry SHEPHERD b. 7 Dec 1827, Rangiahua Bay, Northland, New Zealand
|--2-Robert Orsmond SHEPHERD b. 4 Jul 1829, Rangiahua Bay, Northland, New
| Zealand
|--2-Alfred Brown SHEPHERD b. 9 Mar 1830, Rangiahua Bay, Northland, New Zealand
|--2-Harriet Ann SHEPHERD b. 22 Oct 1832, Rangiahua Bay, Northland, New Zealand
|--2-Richard Hill SHEPHERD b. 6 Jan 1835, Rangiahua Bay, Northland, New Zealand
|--2-Elizabeth Jane SHEPHERD b. 10 Nov 1836, Rangiahua Bay, Northland, New
| Zealand
|--2-John Goodwin SHEPHERD b. 10 Nov 1838, Rangiahua Bay, Northland, New Zealand
|
|--2-Thomas Williams SHEPHERD b. 24 Dec 1841, Waitangi, Northland, New Zealand
|--2-Henry George SHEPHERD b. 29 Dec 1843, Waitangi, Northland, New Zealand
|--2-Samuel Ebenezer SHEPHERD b. 23 Jan 1846, Whangaroa, Northland, New Zealand
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Friday, August 15, 2008

Marriage licenses list to free persons - NSW Government records

NELSON, Isabella
Daughter of Isaac Nelson of Sydney
24 Dec 1819

NELSON, Randel
Daughter of Isaac Nelson of Liverpool
21 Jan 1818

(my note: Randel seems to be a misreading of Harriet (H for R, arri for and, t for l. Liverpool is in Sydney)

Thursday, August 14, 2008

Isaac NELSON, some extra descendants

Descendants of Isaac NELSON Clerk, convict, emancipist farmer, schoolteacher
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1-Isaac NELSON Clerk, convict, emancipist farmer, schoolteacher b. Abt 1762,
England, d. Sep 1833, Sydney, New South Wales, Australia
+Sarah GODWIN Sally, farmer in Sydney b. Abt 1768, England, d. 1817,
Parramatta, Sydney, New South Wales, Australia
|--2-Isabella NELSON Emmie b. 1795, Sydney, New South Wales, Australia, c.
| 1795, St Phillips, Sydney, NSW, Australia, d. 7 Dec 1854, Papeete, Tahiti,
| Pacific Islands
| +Rev John Muggeridge ORSMOND Missionary b. 1784, Portsmouth, Hampshire,
| England, c. 6 Dec 1812, Saint Marys, Portsea, Hampshire, England, d. 23
| Apr 1856, Pacific Ocean
| |--3-Moody Forbes ORSMOND b. 24 Dec 1820, Papeete, Tahiti, Pacific Islands
| |--3-John Griffin ORSMOND b. 16 Mar 1822, Papeete, Tahiti, Pacific Islands,
| | d. 20 Oct 1866, Papeete, Tahiti, Pacific Islands
| |--3-Eliza Charlotte ORSMOND b. 25 Nov 1823, Papeete, Tahiti, Pacific
| | Islands, d. 11 Nov 1860
| |--3-Henry ORSMOND b. 1824, Papeete, Tahiti, Pacific Islands, d. 1865
| |--3-John Bennett ORSMOND b. 3 Jun 1825, Papeete, Tahiti, Pacific Islands,
| | d. 26 Jul 1876
| |--3-George Bennett ORSMOND b. 3 Jun 1825, Papeete, Tahiti, Pacific Islands,
| | d. 26 Jul 1876
| |--3-Isabelle Brine ORSMOND b. 17 Sep 1826, Papeete, Tahiti, Pacific
| | Islands, d. 1896
| |--3-Mary Lane ORSMOND b. 12 Jun 1828, Papeete, Tahiti, Pacific Islands, c.
| | 24 Jun 1828, Papeete, Tahiti, Pacific Islands
| |--3-Thomas Nelson ORSMOND b. 4 Apr 1830, Papeete, Tahiti, Pacific Islands,
| | d. 1865
| |--3-Harriet Uraore ORSMOND Hattie, teacher b. 18 Apr 1832, Papeete, Tahiti,
| | Pacific Islands
| |--3-Hannah Ellis ORSMOND b. 4 Aug 1834, Papeete, Tahiti, Pacific Islands
| |--3-Caroline Armstrong ORSMOND Carrie b. 13 Jun 1836, Papeete, Tahiti,
| | Pacific Islands, d. 1919, Seatoun, Wellington, New Zealand
| |--3-Cecilia ORSMOND b. 1837, Papeete, Tahiti, Pacific Islands
| |--3-Ann Austin ORSMOND Annie b. 29 Jun 1838, Papeete, Tahiti, Pacific
| | Islands, d. 1911
|--2-Randel NELSON b. Abt 1796, Sydney, New South Wales, Australia, d. After
| 1818
| +Unknown
|--2-Louisa NELSON b. 1798, Sydney, New South Wales, Australia, d. After 1837
| +John FLINN b. Abt 1798, Parramatta, Sydney, New South Wales, Australia, d.
| 1821, New South Wales, Australia
| |--3-Edward FLINN b. 1819, New South Wales, Australia, d. 1819, New South
| | Wales, Australia
| |--3-John T FLINN b. 1819, New South Wales, Australia, d. 1821, New South
| | Wales, Australia
| +Charles F LUCAS b. Abt 1790, d. 1835, New South Wales, Australia
| |--3-Charles LUCAS b. Abt 1835, New South Wales, Australia, d. 1837, New
| | South Wales, Australia
| +Benjamin ROBINSON b. Abt 1796
|--2-Harriett NELSON b. 30 Dec 1800, Sydney, New South Wales, Australia, d.
| 1877, Northland, New Zealand
| +Charles HERSFERTH b. Abt 1800, Sydney, New South Wales, Australia, d.
| 1819, Sydney, New South Wales, Australia
| |--3-Charles G HERSFERTH b. Abt 1819, New South Wales, Australia, d. 1820,
| | New South Wales, Australia
| +James SHEPHERD b. 1796, Sydney, New South Wales, Australia, d. After 1859,
| Northland, New Zealand
| |--3-Harriet SHEPHERD b. 1825, New South Wales, Australia
|--2-Infant NELSON b. 1789, London, England, d. 1789, London, England
|--2-Harriett NELSON b. 1793, Parramatta, Sydney, New South Wales, Australia,
| d. 1793, Parramatta, Sydney, New South Wales, Australia
+Ann BRACKFIELD b. Abt 1773, Sydney, New South Wales, Australia, d. 1839,
Parramatta, Sydney, New South Wales, Australia
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Wednesday, August 13, 2008

Isaac Nelson, descendants

Descendants of Isaac NELSON Clerk, convict, emancipist farmer, schoolteacher
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1-Isaac NELSON Clerk, convict, emancipist farmer, schoolteacher b. Abt 1762,
England, d. Sep 1833, Sydney, New South Wales, Australia
+Sarah GODWIN Sally, farmer in Sydney b. Abt 1768, England, d. 1817,
Parramatta, Sydney, New South Wales, Australia
|--2-Isabella NELSON Emmie b. 1795, Sydney, New South Wales, Australia, c.
| 1795, St Phillips, Sydney, NSW, Australia, d. 7 Dec 1854, Papeete, Tahiti,
| Pacific Islands
| +Rev John Muggeridge ORSMOND Missionary b. 1784, Portsmouth, Hampshire,
| England, c. 6 Dec 1812, Saint Marys, Portsea, Hampshire, England, d. 23
| Apr 1856, Pacific Ocean
| |--3-Moody Forbes ORSMOND b. 24 Dec 1820, Papeete, Tahiti, Pacific Islands
| |--3-John Griffin ORSMOND b. 16 Mar 1822, Papeete, Tahiti, Pacific Islands,
| | d. 20 Oct 1866, Papeete, Tahiti, Pacific Islands
| | +Teumere Taimetua Tane Tinorua OPEA b. 1833, Papeete, Tahiti, Pacific
| | Islands, d. 14 Oct 1866, Papeete, Tahiti, Pacific Islands
| | |--4-John Tehahe Nuurehia Paheroo ORSMOND b. 2 Aug 1857, Papeete, Tahiti,
| | | Pacific Islands, d. 29 Jul 1873, Papeete, Tahiti, Pacific Islands
| | |--4-Eliza Teumere Opea ORSMOND b. 12 Dec 1855, Teahupoo, Tahiti, Pacific
| | | Islands
| |--3-Eliza Charlotte ORSMOND b. 25 Nov 1823, Papeete, Tahiti, Pacific
| | Islands, d. 11 Nov 1860
| | +Isaac Shepherd HENRY Missionary family b. Abt 1820, Tahiti
| | |--4-One HENRY b. Abt 1841, Papeete, Tahiti, Pacific Islands
| | |--4-Two HENRY b. Abt 1843, Papeete, Tahiti, Pacific Islands
| | |--4-Three HENRY b. Abt 1843, Papeete, Tahiti, Pacific Islands
| | |--4-Teora HENRY Teddy's cousin. Book. b. 24 Jan 1847, Papeete, Tahiti,
| | | Pacific Islands, d. Jan 1915, Paea, Tahiti
| | |--4-Two HENRY b. Abt 1849, Papeete, Tahiti, Pacific Islands
| |--3-Henry ORSMOND b. 1824, Papeete, Tahiti, Pacific Islands, d. 1865
| |--3-John Bennett ORSMOND b. 3 Jun 1825, Papeete, Tahiti, Pacific Islands,
| | d. 26 Jul 1876
| | +Elizabeth HALL b. Abt 1825, Papeete, Tahiti, Pacific Islands
| |--3-George Bennett ORSMOND b. 3 Jun 1825, Papeete, Tahiti, Pacific Islands,
| | d. 26 Jul 1876
| | +Elizabeth b. Abt 1825
| |--3-Isabelle Brine ORSMOND b. 17 Sep 1826, Papeete, Tahiti, Pacific
| | Islands, d. 1896
| |--3-Mary Lane ORSMOND b. 12 Jun 1828, Papeete, Tahiti, Pacific Islands, c.
| | 24 Jun 1828, Papeete, Tahiti, Pacific Islands
| |--3-Thomas Nelson ORSMOND b. 4 Apr 1830, Papeete, Tahiti, Pacific Islands,
| | d. 1865
| |--3-Harriet Uraore ORSMOND Hattie, teacher b. 18 Apr 1832, Papeete, Tahiti,
| | Pacific Islands
| |--3-Hannah Ellis ORSMOND b. 4 Aug 1834, Papeete, Tahiti, Pacific Islands
| |--3-Caroline Armstrong ORSMOND Carrie b. 13 Jun 1836, Papeete, Tahiti,
| | Pacific Islands, d. 1919, Seatoun, Wellington, New Zealand
| | +Edward JOLLIE Senior, surveyor b. 1 Sep 1825, Brampton, Cumbria,
| | England, c. 25 Sep 1825, Brampton, Cumbria, England, d. 5 Aug 1894,
| | Wellington, New Zealand, bur. 7 Aug 1894, Patea, Taranaki, New Zealand
| | |--4-Margaret Isabel JOLLIE Peggy, Maggie, Madge b. 11 May 1862,
| | | Islington, London, England, d. 1936, New Plymouth, Taranaki , New
| | | Zealand
| | |--4-Caroline Stanley JOLLIE Carrie, Callie b. 3 Oct 1863, Christchurch,
| | | Canterbury, New Zealand, d. After 1891
| | |--4-Lt.Col. Francis JOLLIE Frank, or Poddy? b. 30 Mar 1865,
| | | Christchurch, Canterbury, New Zealand, d. Abt 1946, Jersey, Channel
| | | Islands
| | |--4-Elizabeth JOLLIE Bessie b. 25 Jun 1866, Christchurch, Canterbury,
| | | New Zealand, d. After 1928, Scotland
| | |--4-Mary JOLLIE May, paranormal b. 5 Mar 1868, Christchurch, Canterbury,
| | | New Zealand, d. After 1934
| | |--4-Florence JOLLIE b. 6 Oct 1869, Christchurch, Canterbury, New
| | | Zealand, d. 1873, Canterbury, New Zealand
| | |--4-Edward J JOLLIE Teddie, farmer, gardener b. 26 Oct 1871,
| | | Christchurch, Canterbury, New Zealand, d. 17 Apr 1925, New Plymouth,
| | | Taranaki , New Zealand, bur. Apr 1925, Te Henui Cemetery, New
| | | Plymouth, New Zealand
| | |--4-Sarah Godwin JOLLIE Sally b. 11 Nov 1873, Christchurch, Canterbury,
| | | New Zealand
| | |--4-Christabel Frances JOLLIE Chrissa b. 22 Oct 1875, Christchurch,
| | | Canterbury, New Zealand, d. 1939, Auckland, New Zealand, bur. 1939
| |--3-Cecilia ORSMOND b. 1837, Papeete, Tahiti, Pacific Islands
| |--3-Ann Austin ORSMOND Annie b. 29 Jun 1838, Papeete, Tahiti, Pacific
| | Islands, d. 1911
| +Thomas LITTLEJOHN
|--2-Louisa NELSON b. 1798, Sydney, New South Wales, Australia
| +John FLINN b. Abt 1798, Parramatta, Sydney, New South Wales, Australia
|--2-Harriett NELSON b. 30 Dec 1800, Sydney, New South Wales, Australia, d.
| 1877, Northland, New Zealand
| +Charles HERSFERTH b. Abt 1800, Sydney, New South Wales, Australia
| +James SHEPHERD b. Abt 1800, d. After 1859, Northland, New Zealand
|--2-Infant NELSON b. 1789, London, England, d. 1789, London, England
|--2-Harriett NELSON b. 1793, Parramatta, Sydney, New South Wales, Australia,
| d. 1793, Parramatta, Sydney, New South Wales, Australia
+Ann BRACKFIELD b. Abt 1773, Sydney, New South Wales, Australia, d. 1839,
Parramatta, Sydney, New South Wales, Australia
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Edmund FULLER, Aslacton Norfolk 1726, descendants

Descendants of Edmund FULLER
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1-Edmund FULLER b. Abt 1726, Aslacton, Norfolk, England, d. After 1750,
Aslacton, Norfolk, England
+Unknown
|--2-Catharine FULLER b. 1751, Aslacton, Norfolk, England, d. Mar 1836,
| Forncett St Peter, Norfolk, England, bur. 4 Mar 1836, Forncett St Peter,
| Norfolk, England
+John BREWSTER b. 1752, Forncett St Peter, Norfolk, England, c. 1754,
Forncett St Peter, Norfolk, England, bur. 23 Jan 1837, Forncett St Peter,
Norfolk, England
|--3-William Fuller BREWSTER b. 4 Jun 1776, Forncett St Peter, Norfolk,
| England, c. 27 Dec 1779, Forncett St Peter, Norfolk, England, bur. 27
| Oct 1840, Forncett St Peter, Norfolk, England
| +Susanna SPICER b. 1779, Norfolk, England, d. 3 Feb 1864, Forncett St
| Peter, Norfolk, England
| |--4-Robert Spicer BREWSTER b. 29 Aug 1798, Forncett St Peter, Norfolk,
| | England, c. 2 Sep 1798, Forncett St Peter, Norfolk, England
| |--4-William BREWSTER c. 20 Jan 1800, Forncett St Peter, Norfolk,
| | England, bur. Rosary Rd Cemetery, Norwich, Norfolk, England
| | +Elizabeth SPICER b. Abt 1800, Norfolk, England
| | |--5-Julia BREWSTER c. 3 May 1835, Forncett St Peter, Norfolk,
| | | England, d. 1866
| | +Hubert Alfred GRIMES b. Abt 1839, Blakeney, Norfolk, England
| |--4-John BREWSTER c. 28 Feb 1802, Forncett St Peter, Norfolk, England
| |--4-Marianne BREWSTER c. 3 Mar 1804, Forncett St Peter, Norfolk,
| | England, d. 21 May 1822, Forncett St Peter, Norfolk, England
| |--4-Edmund BREWSTER c. 6 Nov 1807, Forncett St Peter, Norfolk, England,
| | bur. 18 Feb 1813, Forncett St Peter, Norfolk, England
| |--4-Elizabeth BREWSTER c. 15 Apr 1806, Forncett St Peter, Norfolk,
| | England, bur. 7 Aug 1806, Forncett St Peter, Norfolk, England
| |--4-Henry BREWSTER c. 20 Dec 1809, Forncett St Peter, Norfolk, England
| | +Mary A b. Abt 1809, Norfolk, England
| | |--5-Henry R BREWSTER b. 1850, Tibenham, Norfolk, England
| |--4-Edmund BREWSTER c. 9 Nov 1817, Forncett St Peter, Norfolk, England
| | +Phebe? b. Abt 1817, Norfolk, England, d. Bef 1861, Depwade, Norfolk,
| | England
| | |--5-Julia BREWSTER b. Abt 1840, Depwade, Norfolk, England
| | |--5-Harriet BREWSTER b. Abt 1843, Depwade, Norfolk, England
| | |--5-Hannah BREWSTER b. Abt 1850, Depwade, Norfolk, England
| |--4-Susanna BREWSTER c. 24 Nov 1811, Forncett St Peter, Norfolk, England
| |--4-Mary Ann BREWSTER b. 1820, Aslacton, Norfolk, England
|--3-Judith Maria BREWSTER c. 27 Dec 1779, Forncett St Peter, Norfolk,
| England
| +John CROSS b. Abt 1779
|--3-Henry BREWSTER b. 9 Sep 1781, Forncett St Peter, Norfolk, England, c.
| 25 May 1783, Forncett St Peter, Norfolk, England
| +Anna Maria BRAUNCH b. Abt 1781, Forncett St Peter, Norfolk, England
| |--4-Henry BREWSTER c. 8 Mar 1812, Forncett St Mary, Norfolk, England
| |--4-William BREWSTER b. 1821, Norfolk, England
|--3-John BREWSTER b. 9 Sep 1781, Forncett St Peter, Norfolk, England, c. 25
| May 1783, Forncett St Peter, Norfolk, England
| +Sarah CROSS b. Abt 1785, Norfolk, England
| |--4-James Cross BREWSTER c. 3 Oct 1802, Forncett St Peter, Norfolk,
| | England, d. Dec 1870, Norfolk, England
| | +Mary GRIEVES b. Abt 1802, Deopham, Norfolk, England
| | |--5-Sarah BREWSTER b. Abt 1822, Norfolk, England, d. May 1900,
| | | Nelson, New Zealand, bur. 4 May 1900, Wakapuaka Cemetery, Nelson
| | | , New Zealand
| | | +Mr EDMONDSON b. Abt 1820, England
| | |--5-James BREWSTER b. Abt 1837, Norwich, Norfolk, England, d. 27 Apr
| | | 1902, Nelson, New Zealand, bur. 29 Apr 1902, Wakapuaka Cemetery,
| | | Nelson, New Zealand
| | +Betsy Barterama McDOUGALL b. Abt 1837, d. New Zealand
| |--4-Sarah Cross BREWSTER c. 1 Jun 1804, Forncett St Peter, Norfolk,
| | England
| |--4-John Cross BREWSTER c. 27 Sep 1806, Forncett St Peter, Norfolk,
| | England
| |--4-Catherine Cross BREWSTER c. 1 Jan 1809, Forncett St Peter, Norfolk,
| | England
| |--4-Henry Cross BREWSTER c. 20 Dec 1809, Forncett St Peter, Norfolk,
| | England
|--3-Edmund BREWSTER c. 14 Mar 1786, Forncett St Peter, Norfolk, England, d.
| Mar 1860, Norwich, Norfolk, England
| +Mary A RUDD b. 1786, Eaton St Andrew, Norfolk, England, d. 13 Nov 1856,
| bur. Nov 1856, Rosary Rd Cemetery, Norwich, Norfolk, England
| |--4-Elizabeth Mary BREWSTER b. 1809, Forncett St Peter, Norfolk,
| | England, c. 1809, St John DE Sepulchre, Norwich, Norfolk, England,
| | d. 1809, Forncett St Peter, Norfolk, England
| |--4-Elizabeth Mary BREWSTER c. 9 Oct 1810, Forncett St Peter, Norfolk,
| | England
| |--4-Edmund BREWSTER c. 2 Feb 1812, Forncett St Peter, Norfolk, England,
| | bur. 14 Sep 1817, Forncett St Peter, Norfolk, England
| |--4-Letitia BREWSTER c. 12 Jun 1814, Forncett St Peter, Norfolk, England
| |--4-William BREWSTER c. 17 Nov 1816, Forncett St Peter, Norfolk,
| | England, d. 19 Jan 1881, Forncett St Peter, Norfolk, England, bur.
| | Jan 1881, Rosary Rd Cemetery, Norwich, Norfolk, England
| | +Maria b. Abt 1816, Forncett St Peter, Norfolk, England, d. 2 Aug
| | 1887, Forncett St Peter, Norfolk, England, bur. Aug 1887, Rosary Rd
| | Cemetery, Norwich, Norfolk, England
| |--4-Edmund BREWSTER c. 7 Jul 1822, Forncett St Peter, Norfolk, England,
| | d. Sep 1909, Solihull, Warwickshire, England
| | +Elizabeth b. Abt 1842, Pulham, Norfolk, England
| | |--5-Frederick BREWSTER b. Abt 1862, Dertton, Norfolk, England
| | +Unknown b. Abt 1825, Dertton, Norfolk, England, d. Bef 1864,
| | Dertton, Norfolk, England
| | |--5-Ernest BREWSTER b. Abt 1851, Dertton, Norfolk, England
| |--4-Henry BREWSTER c. 1827, All Saints, Norwich, Norfolk, England, d.
| | Bef 1841, Norfolk, England
| |--4-Rose Ellen BREWSTER c. 1830, All Saints, Norwich, Norfolk, England
|--3-Jane Carter BREWSTER c. 7 Sep 1788, Forncett St Peter, Norfolk, England
| +William RUSH b. Abt 1788, New Buckenham, Norfolk, England
| |--4-Marlborough RUSH b. 20 Nov 1828, c. 21 Dec 1828, Beeston, Norfolk,
| | England, d. 1 Nov 1883, Great Fransham, Norfolk, England
| +Sarah Jane HARTSHORNE b. Abt 1828, Recton, Norfolk, England
|--3-Elizabeth BREWSTER b. 11 Nov 1790, Forncett St Peter, Norfolk, England,
| d. 1864, Mutford, Norfolk, England
| +William WICK Reputed father c. 28 Aug 1785, Tacolneston, Norfolk,
| England, d. After 1813, Norfolk, England
| |--4-Catherine BREWSTER Natural child c. 24 Mar 1814, Forncett St Peter,
| | Norfolk, England, d. 30 Dec 1847, Heigham, Norwich, Norfolk, England
| +Unknown b. Abt 1814, Norfolk, England, d. After 1835, Norfolk,
| England
| |--5-Colin BREWSTER Methodist preacher c. 2 Oct 1836, Forncett St
| | Peter, Norfolk, England, d. 4 Apr 1890, Victoria Deaconesses
| | Hospital, Cairo, Egypt, bur. Apr 1890, American Cemetery, Cairo,
| | Egypt
| +Charlotte STACEY Cottage Landlady b. Sep 1846, Tadcaster,
| Yorkshire, England, d. 28 May 1931, Lisburn House, Lisburne Lane,
| Cheadle, Hulme, Cheshire, England, bur. 1931, Woodford Church
| near Bramhall, Cheshire, England
| |--6-Ernest Stacey BREWSTER b. Jun 1868, Chorlton, Lancashire,
| | England, d. Jun 1869, Norwich, Norfolk, England
| |--6-Arthur Clement BREWSTER b. Sep 1873, Liverpool, Lancashire,
| | England, d. 12 Dec 1923, Lincluding, Brockenhurt, Hampshire,
| | England
| | +Clara DIMBUCK b. Abt 1873, Ely, Norfolk, England
| |--6-Infant BREWSTER b. Abt 1875, Liverpool, Lancashire, England,
| | d. Abt 1876, Liverpool, Lancashire, England
| |--6-Walter Stacey BREWSTER b. Sep 1878, West Derby, Lancashire,
| | England, d. 3 May 1941, England
| | +Charlotte A PERIAM Dolly b. Abt 1878, Solihull, Warwickshire,
| | England
| |--6-Edgar Colin BREWSTER Farmer, electrician b. 9 Nov 1879, 14
| | Selborne St, Toxteth Park, Liverpool, Lancashire, England, d.
| | 22 Aug 1972, Panmure Auckland , New Zealand, bur. 23 Aug 1972,
| | Mangere Cemetery, Auckland, New Zealand
| | +Johanna Geraldine Euphemia SCOTT Josie b. 24 May 1880, Takaka,
| | Golden Bay, New Zealand, d. 19 Apr 1960, Auckland, New
| | Zealand, bur. May 1960, Mangere Cemetery, Auckland, New
| | Zealand
| | |--7-Colin Walter BREWSTER b. 10 Jan 1904, Eltham, Taranaki, New
| | | Zealand, d. 21 Sep 1990, Rotorua, New Zealand, bur. 1990,
| | | Kauae Cemetery, Ngongotaha, Rotorua, New Zealand
| | |--7-Edgar Roy BREWSTER Roy, beekeeper b. 9 Nov 1905, Eltham,
| | | Taranaki, New Zealand, d. 26 Mar 1978, New Plymouth,
| | | Taranaki , New Zealand
| | |--7-Willliam Douglas BREWSTER Bill b. 17 May 1908, Eltham,
| | | Taranaki, New Zealand, d. 9 Jul 1977, Tairua, Coromandel,
| | | New Zealand, bur. 1977, Purewa Cemetery, Auckland, New
| | | Zealand
| | |--7-Donald Arthur BREWSTER Don b. 19 Aug 1916, Bunnythorpe,
| | | Manawatu, New Zealand, d. 20 Jan 1973, Lower Hutt,
| | | Wellington, New Zealand, bur. 25 Jan 1973, Marsden Valley
| | | Cemetery, Stoke, Nelson, New Zealand
| | |--7-Margaret Daphne Joyce BREWSTER Joyce b. 17 May 1920, New
| | | Plymouth, Taranaki , New Zealand, d. 6 Mar 1979, Auckland
| | | Hospital, Auckland, New Zealand, bur. Mar 1979, Mangere
| | | Cemetery, Auckland, New Zealand
| |--6-Sidney BREWSTER b. 1886, Heaton Moor, Stockport, Cheshire,
| | England, d. 16 Jul 1916, Auckland Hospital, Auckland, New
| | Zealand, bur. Jul 1916, Waikaraka, Auckland, New Zealand
| | +Alma CROON b. 1887, Opotiki, Bay of Plenty, New Zealand
| |--6-Edith Catherine BREWSTER Katie b. Sep 1882, Heaton Norris,
| | Stockport, Cheshire, England, d. 28 Feb 1924, Stockport,
| | Cheshire, England, bur. 1924, Woodford Church near Bramhall,
| | Cheshire, England
|--3-James BREWSTER c. 24 Mar 1794, Forncett St Peter, Norfolk, England, d.
| After 1861, Norfolk, England
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Tuesday, August 12, 2008

Arthur Marshall CHAMBERS descendants

Descendants of Arthur Marshall4 CHAMBERS Ironmaster
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1-Arthur Marshall4 CHAMBERS Ironmaster b. Sep 1843, Wortley, Yorkshire,
England, d. Sep 1898, Scarborough, Yorkshire, England
+Frances Jane HAGGIE Fanny b. 9 Jun 1845, Whickham, Durham, England, d. Mar
1904, Easington, Durham, England
|--2-Florence CHAMBERS b. Abt 1873, Yorkshire, England
|--2-John Arthur Peter Haggie CHAMBERS b. 1876, Ecclesfield, Wortley,
| Yorkshire, England, d. 1881, Ecclesfield, Wortley, Yorkshire, England
|--2-Frances Elizabeth CHAMBERS Bessie b. Sep 1878, Ecclesfield, Wortley,
| Yorkshire, England, d. 20 Aug 1907, Albury, Guildford, Surrey, England
| +Edward J JOLLIE Teddie, farmer, gardener b. 26 Oct 1871, Christchurch,
| Canterbury, New Zealand, d. 17 Apr 1925, New Plymouth, Taranaki , New
| Zealand, bur. Apr 1925, Te Henui Cemetery, New Plymouth, New Zealand
| |--3-Frances Margaret Elizabeth JOLLIE Beth, telephonist b. 18 Jun 1904,
| | Hamilton, Waikato, New Zealand, d. 14 Sep 1941, New Plymouth, Taranaki
| | , New Zealand, bur. 16 Sep 1941, Te Henui Cemetery, New Plymouth, New
| | Zealand
| |--3-Edward Arthur Kenneth Orsmond Bruce JOLLIE Bruce, Ted to his wife b. 7
| | Aug 1905, Hamilton, Waikato, New Zealand, d. 22 Oct 1984, Auckland, New
| | Zealand
|--2-Helen Margaret CHAMBERS Margaret b. 1880, Sheffield, Yorkshire, England
|--2-Sinclair Wilfred Halliburton CHAMBERS Wilfred b. 1881, Yorkshire, England
|--2-Gwendolen CHAMBERS b. Abt 1883, Ecclesfield, Wortley, Yorkshire, England
| +Mr HICKS b. Abt 1883, Yorkshire, England
|--2-Emma F C CHAMBERS b. Abt 1883, Sheffield, Yorkshire, England
|--2-Margaret CHAMBERS b. Abt 1884, Ecclesfield, Wortley, Yorkshire, England
|--2-Audrey Dorothea CHAMBERS b. Abt 1887, Sheffield, Yorkshire, England, d.
| After 1909
+Albert Meuburn SMITH b. Abt 1882, Yorkshire, England
|--3-April Audrey Meuburn SMITH b. Abt 1916, Yorkshire, England
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William WILTON and Mary SWASH descendants

Descendants of William WILTON
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1-William WILTON b. 7 Mar 1700, North Stoneham, Hampshire, England, c. 18 Mar
1700, North Stoneham, Hampshire, England, d. Jan 1764, North Stoneham,
Hampshire, England
+Mary SWASH b. Abt 1704, Avington, Hampshire, England, d. 5 Jul 1763
|--2-Joyce WILTON c. 6 Jan 1729, North Stoneham, Hampshire, England
|--2-William WILTON c. 7 Apr 1732, North Stoneham, Hampshire, England
|--2-Anne WILTON c. 2 Nov 1735, North Stoneham, Hampshire, England
|--2-John WILTON c. 11 Nov 1739, North Stoneham, Hampshire, England
|--2-Jane WILTON b. 1745, Hamble Le Rice, Hampshire, England, c. 26 Apr 1745,
| North Stoneham, Hampshire, England, d. Oct 1823, Hamble Le Rice,
| Hampshire, England
+John NOYCE b. 1739, Hamble Le Rice, Hampshire, England, d. After 1782,
Hampshire, England
|--3-Thomas NOYCE c. 4 Mar 1770, North Stoneham, Hampshire, England
|--3-John NOYCE c. 4 Mar 1770, North Stoneham, Hampshire, England
|--3-William NOYCE c. 27 Aug 1775, North Stoneham, Hampshire, England, d. 25
| Dec 1803, Wonston, Hampshire, England
| +Leah CROUCHER b. 1772, Stoke Charity, Hampshire, England, d. 1826,
| Hampshire, England
| |--4-William NOYCE b. 1800, Sutton Scotney, Hampshire, England, c. 4 May
| | 1800, Sutton Scotney, Hampshire, England, d. 21 Mar 1878, Sunbury,
| | London, England, bur. 1878, Brompton Cemetery, London, England
| +Mary Ann BOYINGTON b. 24 Dec 1802, Marylebone, London, England, d.
| 1869, Kensington, London, England
| |--5-Elizabeth NOYCE b. 1827
| |--5-Leah NOYCE b. 1828
| |--5-John NOYCE Gardener b. 1831, Kensington, London, England, d. 25
| | Sep 1911, bur. 28 Sep 1911, Hendon Park Cemetery, London, England
| | +Jane MOULD b. 1829, Apethorpe, Northampton, England
| | |--6-William Charles NOYCE Gardener b. 10 Jul 1855, Kensington,
| | | London, England, d. 16 Jan 1937, Caldicott, Cambs, England
| |--5-Charles NOYCE b. 1833
| |--5-Isabella NOYCE b. 1835
| |--5-William NOYCE b. 1837
| |--5-Rachel NOYCE b. 1839
| |--5-James NOYCE b. 1842
| |--5-George NOYCE b. 1845
| |--5-Emma NOYCE b. 28 May 1847, London, England
| |--5-Mary Ann Susanah NOYCE b. 7 Oct 1823, London, England, c. 8 Feb
| | 1824, St Mary, Marylebone, London, England, d. 21 Sep 1826,
| | London, England
| |--5-William NOYCE b. Jul 1825, London, England, c. 16 Oct 1825, St
| | Mary, Marylebone, London, England, d. 27 Sep 1830, London,
| | England
|--3-Mary NOYCE c. 11 Oct 1778, North Stoneham, Hampshire, England, d. Jan
| 1781, North Stoneham, Hampshire, England, bur. 18 Jan 1781, North
| Stoneham, Hampshire, England
|--3-James NOYCE b. 1781, Hamble Le Rice, Hampshire, England, c. 19 Aug
| 1781, North Stoneham, Hampshire, England, d. 1840, Southampton,
| Hampshire, England
| +Jane MAY Remarried c. 15 Dec 1798, Durley, Hampshire, England, d. Mar
| 1880, South Stoneham, Hound, Hampshire, England
| |--4-Mary NOYCE b. 1816, Winchester, Hampshire, England
| |--4-Charles NOYCE ag lab then Carter b. 23 Apr 1819, Satchell, Hamble Le
| | Rice, Hound, Hampshire, England, d. 11 Nov 1891, Old Netley, South
| | Stoneham, Hound, Hampshire, England
| | +Charlotte SEARLE House servant b. Abt 1813, Fairoak, Eastleigh,
| | Hampshire, England, c. Abt 1 Jun 1817, Hamble Le Rice, Hampshire,
| | England, d. Mar 1907, South Stoneham, Hound, Hampshire, England
| | |--5-Charles Edward NOYCE Victorian Gardener b. 30 Mar 1849,
| | | Bursledon, Southampton, Hampshire, England, d. 10 Aug 1923,
| | | Winchester, Hampshire, England, bur. Aug 1923, Chichester, W
| | | Sussex, England
| | | +Caroline RAPSON Servant, Victorian b. 25 Jan 1851, Cocking,
| | | Midhurst, W Sussex, England, c. 16 Mar 1851, Cocking, Midhurst, W
| | | Sussex, England, d. 4 Apr 1910, Chichester, W Sussex, England,
| | | bur. Apr 1910, Chichester, W Sussex, England
| | | |--6-William Charles NOYCE Willie, tin plate worker b. 8 May 1878,
| | | | Chichester, W Sussex, England, c. Jun 1878, Chichester, W
| | | | Sussex, England, d. After 1953, Chichester, W Sussex, England
| | | |--6-George Henry NOYCE Boot maker, self-employed b. 22 Jan 1880,
| | | | Basin Road, Subdeanary, Chichester, W Sussex, England, c. Mar
| | | | 1880, Chichester, W Sussex, England, d. After 1947,
| | | | Chichester, W Sussex, England
| | | |--6-Florence Mabel NOYCE Flo b. Dec 1882, Basin Road, Subdeanary,
| | | | Chichester, W Sussex, England, d. Abt 1945, England
| | | |--6-Rosa Charlotte Mary NOYCE Lottie, sewing maid b. 5 Oct 1886,
| | | | Chichester, W Sussex, England, d. 4 Nov 1969, Eltham,
| | | | Taranaki, New Zealand, bur. Nov 1969, Hawera Cemetery, Hawera,
| | | | Taranaki, New Zealand
| | |--5-Sarah Harriett NOYCE Unemployed b. 1851, Hampshire, England, d.
| | | Jun 1907, Winchester, Hampshire, England
| | |--5-George James NOYCE b. 1852, Hampshire, England, d. After 1877
| | | +Unknown
| | | |--6-Basil Sydney NOYCE b. Abt 1873, Southampton, Hampshire, England
| | | |
| | |--5-William NOYCE Ag Lab b. 1854, Winchester, Hampshire, England, d.
| | | 1872, Winchester, Hampshire, England
| |--4-Harriet NOYCE b. 1821, Winchester, Hampshire, England, d. 1888,
| | Winchester, Hampshire, England
| |--4-George NOYCE Ag lab? b. 1823, Winchester, Hampshire, England, d.
| | After 1841, Hampshire, England
| | +Unknown
| | |--5-Emily Ann NOYCE b. Abt 1849, Southampton, Hampshire, England
| |--4-James NOYCE b. 1826, Winchester, Hampshire, England
| |--4-Ann NOYCE b. 1831, England
| |--4-Elizabeth NOYCE b. 1834, Winchester, Hampshire, England, d. 1872,
| | Winchester, Hampshire, England
| |--4-Richard NOYCE b. 1836, Winchester, Hampshire, England, d. 1873,
| | Winchester, Hampshire, England
| |--4-Abraham NOYCE b. 1839, England, d. 1840, England
|--3-Mary Ann NOYCE c. 27 Jul 1783, North Stoneham, Hampshire, England
+Joseph WILTON b. Abt 1783, England
+Unknown
|--3-Thomas WILTON b. 19 Sep 1762, North Stoneham, Hampshire, England
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Monday, August 11, 2008

Frederick William Thrusher ARCHBOLD desc

Some Descendants of Frederick William Thrusher ARCHBOLD - living people not shown
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1-Frederick William Thrusher ARCHBOLD b. Jun 1877, Bloomfield Rd, Mile End,
London, Middlesex, England, d. 10 Apr 1920, Christchurch, Canterbury, New
Zealand, bur. 12 Apr 1920, Linwood Cemetery, Christchurch, New Zealand
+Emily Menetta WELLER b. 20 Apr 1879, Bingsland, Christchurch, New Zealand, d.
19 Oct 1950, Christchurch, Canterbury, New Zealand
|--2-Menetta Gertrude Ruth ARCHBOLD Minette, Ettie b. 1896, Christchurch,
| Canterbury, New Zealand, d. 29 Jul 1972, New Zealand, bur. 1972,
| Christchurch, Canterbury, New Zealand
| +Arthur WATTS b. 1896, d. 18 Aug 1972, New Zealand, bur. 1972,
| Christchurch, Canterbury, New Zealand
| |--3-Mildred Menetta WATTS b. 1920, New Zealand, d. 2 Jul 1969, New Zealand
| |--3-Marjery WATTS b. Abt 1924, New Zealand, d. 2006, New Zealand
| |--3-Raema WATTS b. Abt 1925, Christchurch, Canterbury, New Zealand, d. Abt
| | 1975, Christchurch, Canterbury, New Zealand
---2-Joseph Charles ARCHBOLD b. 13 May 1899, Christchurch, Canterbury, New
| Zealand, d. 24 Jul 1972, Dunedin, Otago, New Zealand
| +Harriett Ranguia TUUTA b. 1897, Chatham Islands, New Zealand, d. 12 Mar
| 1954, Christchurch, Canterbury, New Zealand
| |--3-Bernard James ARCHBOLD Sonny b. 26 Jan 1923, Christchurch, Canterbury,
| | New Zealand, d. 12 Jun 1990, Christchurch, Canterbury, New Zealand
| |--3-John Daniel ARCHBOLD b. 11 Mar 1934, Christchurch, Canterbury, New
| | Zealand, d. 28 Dec 1936, Christchurch, Canterbury, New Zealand, bur. 29
| | Dec 1936, Bromley Cemetery, Christchurch, New Zealand
| +Caroline Victoria FLUTEY b. Abt 1899, Christchurch, Canterbury, New
| Zealand, d. 1963, Christchurch, Canterbury, New Zealand
|--2-Frederick William ARCHBOLD b. Abt 1901, Christchurch, Canterbury, New
| Zealand, d. 12 Aug 1980, Christchurch, Canterbury, New Zealand, bur. 15
| Aug 1980, Bromley Cemetery, Christchurch, New Zealand
| +Elsie May SMITH b. 1902, d. 24 Jul 1994
| |--3-Frederick William ARCHBOLD b. Abt 1925
|--2-Francis Reginald ARCHBOLD b. Abt 1902, Christchurch, Canterbury, New
| Zealand, d. Bef 2004
|--2-Emily Rowena ARCHBOLD b. 10 Aug 1904, Christchurch, Canterbury, New
| Zealand, d. Jul 1979, Christchurch, Canterbury, New Zealand
| +Fredrick COX b. Abt 1904
|--2-Lena Grace ARCHBOLD b. 10 Mar 1910, Christchurch, Canterbury, New Zealand,
| d. Aug 1999, Christchurch, Canterbury, New Zealand
|--2-Charles Andrew ARCHBOLD Charlie b. 1914, Christchurch, Canterbury, New
| Zealand, d. 3 Dec 2003, Christchurch, Canterbury, New Zealand
|--2-Lesley Roy ARCHBOLD Les b. 1918, Christchurch, Canterbury, New Zealand, d.
| 1984, Dunsandel, Canterbury, New Zealand
| +Maudie Rita
| +Violet Olive
|--2-Frederick Charles ARCHBOLD b. Jul 1897, Christchurch, Canterbury, New
| Zealand, d. 26 Oct 1897, Christchurch, Canterbury, New Zealand, bur. 27
| Oct 1897, Linwood Cemetery, Christchurch, New Zealand
|--2-Henry Alfred ARCHBOLD b. 1900, Christchurch, Canterbury, New Zealand, d.
| 1902, Christchurch, Canterbury, New Zealand
|--2-Samuel George ARCHBOLD b. 1907, Christchurch, Canterbury, New Zealand, d.
| 1907, Christchurch, Canterbury, New Zealand
|--2-Violet Rose ARCHBOLD b. 1908, Christchurch, Canterbury, New Zealand, d.
| 1908, Christchurch, Canterbury, New Zealand
|--2-Samuel George ARCHBOLD b. 1912, Christchurch, Canterbury, New Zealand, d.
| 1913, Christchurch, Canterbury, New Zealand
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Saturday, August 9, 2008

Photos

I've finished scanning and labelling all those photos that came in the post, apart
from saving a sample of each person's handwriting from the backs.
I've realised that I am saving each photo in several forms - bitmap, for long-term storage because they don't shrink, jpeg above 1mb for printing out at some stage, jpeg under 1 mb for uploading and emailing, paper, and cd. This is a lot but I can't yet think of a better way to handle things. There are also so many in the "family tree" folder that it takes a long time to sift through them and can be hard to find the one I want if I didn't name it carefully.

I can't go through and rename them, or move them to new folders, as some of them are linked to my family tree program and they stop working if renamed or moved.

I'm certainly learning a lot.

I sent notes to the new cousin in Wellington with the query whether he would like
photos on disc as I can't print them all out.

Friday, August 8, 2008

Florence Hart

My grandfather's father Samuel George Archbold remarried after his first wife died
around 1910 - can't find the date yet or the record of the new marriage. His second
wife was Florence Hart, who lived to an old age and of whom I now have a colour photo among others. She seems to have been a really lovely person, something glows out of her photos, and it is said that my grandmother liked her better as a mother-in-law, although my grandparents emigrated in 1921, a year or two after the marriage.

This is what I know, off the back of a photo: Florence, known as Floss, had been the second wife of a man she met in London while in service with/to his sister. They had a daughter, Sissie Hart, who I think may have been named Frances. This husband died after only four years of marriage, some time
after which Floss married Samuel. Floss was not Chichester-born. I can't work out what her maiden name was from the BDM as marriages including a "Hart" and a "Florence" are too numerous.
I can't find a lead by looking up Frances Hart either. Floss must have been
born between about 1862 and about 1890 which is a pretty wide range. I'd like to know more about her, just because of her photos :)

Archbold photos

Lovely bunch of Archbold photos from new "cousin" down south - I really appreciate
these! Including a photo of Emma Finley Archbold nee Brooker's grave beside
her husband. I thought she died in Woolwich in 1923 - either they brought the body back, or I was mistaken.

Thursday, August 7, 2008

Archbold and Noyce photo packet

Rather than copy them, a relative took the plunge and *posted* me several hundred photos of the Noyces and Archbolds, ones they inherited, mostly from the 20s-40s, and they wrote the names on the backs where the previous comments didn't cover it. I've been scanning them, annotating them, and naming them so that I can print them out and upload them to the other website. And send the originals back.

The notes on the backs are fascinating, they are like little postcards with all sorts of comments on them - probably a hangover from the time when photos were sent as postcards. A lot of them are written in fountain pen, and sometimes it has run if it got wet.

Its been a great help filling in gaps in the family trees and adding new generations.

At the same time I got a mailing from an elderly Archbold 2nd cousin once removed in the Wellington area who isn't online and must have done all their research on foot, as it were. (I wouldn't really know how to do that) I am wondering how best to send them what I have, in what form, and wondering what they would consider relevant - eg for myself, I like getting information and photos of distant cousins, and find it helpful and valuable, but I understand many others prefer to focus on their immediate ancestors and don't want to/have time to pursue what they see as sidelines.

But your siblings could have memories of your parents/grandparents that you never
had, back through each generation. I've "found" ancestors in the census images living with relatives in later life, just by making routine checks that didn't
seem so romising at first.

Those little tiny snaps you get about 3 inches by 2 don't look like much but when you scan them and blow them up they can be very informative. I suppose they were good for posting overseas between Chichester and Hawera.

Family names represented: Noyce, Archbold, Roberts, Nielson, Stubbington, Hart, Whitlock Locations: Chichester, Hawera, Christchurch

Friday, August 1, 2008

Wrapson-Bartlett marriage

I got the certificate for the above in the post yesterday. 4 September 1847. No real surprises except that I note that William and Mary each signed their names with an "X". Doesn't mean they couldn't read of course. Is it also possible they could write their names but were embarrassed to do it badly?

Reminds me of what I read about people from a Sussex agricultural labourer background often not being literate. I think there was a lot of unemployment/poverty in Sussex around that time too for the farm workers.

Jollie Huguenots

I spent a couple of days trying to find any evidence for the family story that the Jollies are descended from Huguenots who fled France: "The Edict of Nantes drove my progenitors out of France, and they settled in the North of Scotland. My grandfather, somewhere about the latter part of the last century, left the north of Scotland and settled in Carlisle....." (Edward Jollie, journal)

That isn't actually correct, the Edict of Nantes stopped the persecutions - Henry of Navarre was sympathetic to the Huguenots. But in 1685 came the
*Revocation* of the Edict of Nantes, and it all started up again. Apparently French Huguenots had been moving to England ever since the 1500s, and not just over one time period, so although there was a big influx around 1700, it wasn't the only place you would have to look to find French ancestors coming in.

The stuff I found said that at one point, there were more French in Berlin than
Germans - hard to believe!!

Anyway I found a cluster of French families who had their children christened in
the Huguenot areas of London in the 1600s but no obvious connections eg the same
first names as our lot or anything. They were all spelt Jolly, too, not Jollie.
I looked up some of their names eg "Etienne Jolly" in France, but there wasn't any obvious connection there either.

I did read that most Jollys come from Languedoc.

Then I find that plenty of them went straight to Scotland from France, it being
a protestant place, and they were welcomed by the Scots in the Edinburgh area
(ie Canongate) because they had good *skills* (as in Napoleon Dynamite).

So I looked at the baptisms for Canongate area but didn't see any obviously
French Jollies or Jollys. I will have a look in the North.

Its tough when people migrate as the connections are lost and there often
isn't anything to link them with the family they left behind unless they
have distinctive middle names or occupations.

It was interesting to note that France was impoverished after the Revocation
partly because the skilled craftsmen left in large numbers, and England
and Scotland were presumably enriched as a result. I wonder if that was
one of the causes of the French Revolution?

Anyway my conclusion: we may never know if the Huguenot connection is real, unless something new comes to light.

Archbold

I just got my first contact off this blog, so I am very happy. A third cousin on the Archbold side, descendant of Frederick William Thrusher Archbold, south of here :)